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    drkdds
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    Mossman,
    Is this a procedure you have routinely treated via blade?

    Anesthesia?

    Did you place the patient on any meds?

    How was the patients discomfort post-op? Looks like it hurts!

    #10720 Reply

    lookin4t
    Spectator

    I’m assuming you had to use anesthetic.

    I would have preferred to see some primary closure here. If you’re worried about a scar, you didn’t decrease the chance of it happening here.

    To be really honest, when I’ve done this with a scalpel and 6-0 to 7-0 sutures I’ve had better looking post-ops. If you are actually worried about a scar here I would consider primary closure.

    #10721 Reply

    Samuel Moss
    Spectator

    Doug and lookin4t,

    I used to do these with local anesthetic, blade, surgical scissors, and sutures.  Plus, I had never seen one quite this large.  However,  I used no local; just the TAC alternative topical, reapplying it when he would raise his hand indicating stinging.  He didn’t really get a chance to raise it much, as I would repeatedly stop and just bathe the surgical area with the TAC topical.

    I gave no post op meds, just OHI as to rinsing with warm salt water.  As with all my patients, I call for the 1st few days to walk them through the healing process as well as to get their feedback.  The 1 week post op photo looked ulcerous, but he said it was not painful and did not feel like an ulcer.  

    I am posting the week 3 postop photo today and you can see that there is no hint of scarring.  FWIW, I did tell mom and dad that mucocoeles can come back.

    3 weeks post op reduced size.jpg

    Mossman

    #10727 Reply

    Swpmn
    Spectator

    Impressive healing at three weeks Moss. How old is the patient?

    Al

    #10722 Reply

    Samuel Moss
    Spectator

    Hey Al,

    This little guy is 12 years old. On regular size (pea size) mucocoeles they usually look like this 3 week followup at 1 week. It’s hard to believe that he never hurt.

    Mossman

    #10723 Reply

    ELLIOT ROGOFF
    Spectator

    A very nice result. Just goes to show that the healing capacity is unbelievably great with the laser. Also their are many ways to do this. I might have tried a CO2 to reduce the time and the bleeding. But the healing probably would be identical. Nice Job.

    #10728 Reply

    arrowsmith
    Spectator

    Please tell me that the thumb I see retracting the lip belonged to the patient’s father!

    #10725 Reply

    Kenneth Luk
    Spectator

    Hi,
    Great result.
    Laser wounds generally looks worse than you think in the beginning but heal with excellent reults.
    ken

    #10726 Reply

    Robert Gregg DDS
    Spectator

    Nicely done Sam,

    Laser wounds are UGLY wounds, that heal very nicely. They often must heal by secondary intention such as this case.

    That blood blister on the thumb looks like it’s healing nicely too. Did you biostim?

    Bob

    #10724 Reply

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Sam: Nice stuff, I am amazed that you were able to do this without anaesthetic. I was hoping to try some of Ron Kaminers magic potion but I guess it got hung up at the border cuz I was never able to get it.

    What are the Canadian folks here using for topical. The best I can do is One Touch Topical by Hagar. Anybody got anything that they use.

    thanks

    Glenn

    Good job Mossman……I always appreciate when someone goes out of their way to show a case. It takes kahunas and a thick skin.

    Now Hack2, you gotta admit the healing looked nice and a scalpel and sutures needs anaesthetic so there was some advantage to this one in my book.

    Glenn

    #10718 Reply

    Anonymous
    Guest
    QUOTE
    Quote: from Glenn van As on 10:30 pm on Sep. 2, 2004
     Anybody got anything that they use.
    thanks

    Glenn

    Glenn , here’s one you can have a compounding pharmacist make for you-

    Benzocaine 20%
    Lidocaine 6%
    Tetracaine 4%
    Phenylephrine qs to 30 grams

    I got this from James Jesse DDS and am very happy with it.

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