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Nuno FerreiraSpectatorHi
wend i start using my waterlase in Portugal, and because im the only one using a waterlase, the training and information was not enough so my patients refer very sensibility in laser procedures, i used to use anesthesya in 30 per cent of the cases.
Last year i spend some time learning and with Docter Chen and now im a very happy Waterlase user…sorry my patients are.
PatricioSpectatorGreat posts everyone. This moves us along. I have prepared meany teeth without anesthesia and have suspected these same teeth are treated equally well with the laser. that said it is clear these same patients prefer the laser and the round bur run slowly at high torque. Bob your experience is key to defining these issues for new users.
I do not believe the companies really know as well as we do what is happening at the end of the tip and I believe they will go to school on the pioneer work of this site. I know my rep follows this board and will be inclined to be more accurate in selling new prospects. What a trip to be there at the beginning and it does seem to have been a long beginning. I looks like we are at critical mass and great things are ahead.
Al do your patients prefer treatment using the laser as part of your present process better than your previous way? Maybe we need to redefine success in laser use.
I know for me I am a better dentist due to magnification and the laser and I am delivering a better service/product to my patients. This is what my patients are telling me.
Pat
Robert GreggParticipantHi Pat,
Thanks for the kind words. You too, Al.
I think Pat really hit the nail on the head about redefining what clinical success is for our patients!!!
Laser dentistry isn’t about getting to the end result so much as it is about the process–the journey–in getting to the end result as well as an excellent clinical end result.
And I think most of us agree on this forum that the process is as important to the patient as well as the end result.
Let me tell you what……the process was VERY important to me when my orthopedic surgeon was yanking a 12 inch SS “pull-out” wire (clothe hanger) from my heal, through my Achilles tendon, and out mid-calf. I didn’t care how good the end result was going to be at THAT moment in time!!!!! Thank God for Xylocaine and good surgical technique.
But when I hear a non-laser clinician say, “Pain is just a question of patient perception.” “I can cut and sew those gums with a ũ.50 scalpel blade, make access holes in the bone with a SS bur, and make better, cleaner cuts that with your lasers.”
B _ _ _ S _ _ _!!
It’s not that they don’t GET it, it’s that they just don’t WANT to get it!
Good perspective Pat, really.
Bob
(Let go….use the force Luke):)
2thlaserSpectatorAbsolutely Right on Bob, RIght on! I couldn’t agree with you more. I also agree on the training aspect. My heart and soul is in teaching and training, especially those new to laser dentistry. I know what it took for ME to get to the place I am now, and am still learning. I just don’t want those who are starting out to get discouraged, so, that being said, I offer myself to train and lecture and teach. That is my mission, period. I want us all to enjoy our profession, to help patients, and to make us deliver the BEST quality of dentistry we can, and lasers, I believe, help us get there. What a great tool. Thanks for letting me put my input in here. I just hope I don’t offend anyone in the process. We MUST work together to further laser dentistry. That is where I am at.
Sincerely,
Mark
Glenn van AsSpectatorI think its great that people like Bob and Mark are there to help educate the masses. It astonishes me to see people spending 50K on lasers and then ask …….”How do I learn to use this”
There is a wealth of material on this board since September. Many people lurk but there is incredible information for the new user here. They could honestly go back through all the posts on the Erbium Hard tissue sections and discover a wealth of insight into how to make their machine work.
I think that Ron Schalter is a testament to how much you can learn here. Pat , Al and Ron Kaminer are others who have learnt a ton.
I think that those teaching should make every effort to get accredited in teaching lasers with Standard and Advanced Proficiencies and if possible the Educators status from the ALD.
I think that these credentials are really the only ones available that guarantee that the educator knows his/her stuff.
In closing I have repeatedly mentioned that this board is a daily source of information , comraderie and education for me. I hope that as it grows (now its over 100 people) that other sections besides Erbium will start to take off and that members will continue to respect the opinions , ideas and treatments of others regardless of machine or wavelength!!
Glenn
2thlaserSpectatorAmen!
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