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  • July 19, 2003 at 11:40 pm in reply to: A question from you folks #6516

    Swpmn
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    In addition I would like to offer a 2 hour participation course on lasers and the operating microscope with hands on with different laser companies and 20 microscopes both hard and soft tissue.

    Do you think that would be interesting.

    Yes, very.

    Al

    July 19, 2003 at 11:56 pm in reply to: WCLI East Coast #8305

    Swpmn
    Spectator

    Me, Dave and our friend/soon to be laser user Larry are all on the same 7:55 PM flight!!!!

    Maybe we can catch up with you guys later!!!

    Al

    (Edited by Swpmn at 9:23 pm on July 19, 2003)

    July 20, 2003 at 12:05 am in reply to: Class 5 case #12051

    dkimmel
    Spectator

    Andrew , Nice! I really like the way the tissue looks on the first premolar.
    David

    July 20, 2003 at 12:40 am in reply to: Class 5 case #12054

    Glenn van As
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    CLAP CLAP CLAP……..beautiful stuff andrew.

    Did patient feel the 980?

    Was it all done without anesthetic?

    What composite did you use?

    Photography through the scope?

    Thanks buddy……nice stuff.

    Glenn

    July 20, 2003 at 1:14 am in reply to: Another simple case #11532

    dkimmel
    Spectator

    Glenn, I agree with Jeff about being able to restore those teeth with a high speed without anesthia. You are right on by spending that extra time for patient management. If it is a first time patient it is more then worth the extra effort to get them used to the sound and water spray. They really do not know what to expect. The true phobic just knows you are going to hurt them.
    Nice case!!!
    DAvid

    July 20, 2003 at 2:57 am in reply to: Another simple case #11537

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Dave I dont know if this case could have been done without anesthetic. The patient is in their late 40s.

    But that is neither here nor there.

    The psychological benefits are one thing but I honestly can say that I know that the laser will “numb up the tooth ” if its used for a couple of minutes before you start.

    The true phobic isnt the one that lasers are great for……if they are that worried , it wont matter what you use.

    Alan…..thanks , great to know that the Opus has that option. The Hoya has a lower and higher range but its nice to know that Opus has a range to use. Thanks for the compliment

    Cya

    Glenn

    July 20, 2003 at 2:58 am in reply to: A question from you folks #6514

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    THanks for the response, I will try to get a scopes + lasers hands on for next year in palm springs.

    Thanks for the interest……..

    Glenn

    July 20, 2003 at 3:06 am in reply to: Osseous Recontouring again #11051

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Ok guess I goofed up with this one more than I thought…..

    I am trying to improve my technique and now I hope for another one.

    Quick answers for you

    David..I couldnt see the gingiva when she smiled thank god….had a hard time holding her lip up for the surgery.
    I see that from other people that they feel I inadequately reduced the tooth, perhaps. I would love to see other peoples cases shown here as it would sure help with understanding how to do it better but it doesnt seem like alot of cases have been posted here.

    Incision lines were made in error it seems. Will note it for next time.

    Sutures were 3.0 gut……to much for the scope. Need smaller ones.

    Thanks Ron……..your post was nicely worded. I must admit like I goofed up pretty good….makes me want to hold of posting for a while and let some others show their great cases.

    As for the palatal I just did it closed. I will get her back and redo the interproximal closed flap if needed.

    In addition if it doesnt heal well we will do a bridge and eliminate the recession on the two adjacent teeth.

    One problem with a mini flap like we discussd is that the flap can easily tear .

    Anyways , I am signed up for a crown lengthening course and will see what they say about flap design

    Not a laser course but I know the laser will just remove the bur out of the equation.

    Gonna take a few days off from the forum…NEED a break.

    Hope to see lots of others posting when I get back in a little while.

    cheers

    Glenn

    It makes you realize closed flap cases leave you less room for criticism.

    July 20, 2003 at 5:32 am in reply to: Aphthous ulcers #10881

    ASI
    Spectator

    Hi Guys,

    Thanks for the comments. I will keep your inputs in mind for future treatment.

    Nikon Coolpix 4500 with Macro Cool-Light SL-1 was used without dental light.

    Andrew

    July 20, 2003 at 5:42 am in reply to: Another simple case #11533

    ASI
    Spectator

    Hi Glenn,

    The key is patient felt nothing in terms of discomfort. And more importantly, he is requesting further treatment.

    Generally, not many patients will ask for more if done traditionally with injection and handpiece. I have always said to many that even if dentistry is free, people won’t likely be lining up at the door.

    Now with the use of laser and scope, that’ll be a different story, if it was free!

    Nice handling and documentation again.

    Andrew

    July 20, 2003 at 5:51 am in reply to: Class 5 case #12052

    ASI
    Spectator

    Hi Guys,

    Thanks for the comments.

    David, I like the looks of the DELight treatment on the gingiva too.

    Glenn, I am not photographing through the scope yet as mine with the X-Mount hasn’t arrived yet. Just using the loaner from Global since the middle of June. The composite is 3MESPE Supreme. I infiltrated just to have some anesthetic effect as this patient is the type that does better with some local.

    Thanks the responses.

    Andrew

    July 20, 2003 at 2:36 pm in reply to: Osseous Recontouring again #11044

    dkimmel
    Spectator

    Glenn, Ron’s form is great. It is just like having the bunch of us setting around critiquing cases and sharing knowledge. The Mastermind concept but over the net. The only problem is critiquing often appears to be criticism. It is one of the short falls of this means of communication. I would like to assure you that my comments about this case or anyones cases are not meant to be a criticism of the case. I also do not see anyone on this form that has that distructive nature ( unlike DT)!
    Critiquing our cases pushes us to the next level ,improves our skills and opens our minds to other techniques. So do not stop postings cases or just posting the ideal cases.

    David

    July 20, 2003 at 8:10 pm in reply to: Osseous Recontouring again #11048

    ASI
    Spectator

    Hi Glenn,

    I look forward and learn so much and enjoy all your posts. I cannot agree with David more.

    Andrew

    July 21, 2003 at 12:53 am in reply to: Osseous Recontouring again #11052

    Kenneth Luk
    Spectator

    Hi Glenn,
    What you have done and shown us gives us much to think about and learn from.
    I’ll certainly post some below par treatments for advices and comments.
    As the anthem of the Liverpool Football Club ( soccer ) in UK sings ” You’ll never walk alone”.
    Ken

    July 21, 2003 at 12:56 am in reply to: Class 5 case #12055

    Kenneth Luk
    Spectator

    Hi Andrew,
    Envy you with all these lasers and scope. Did you rob a bank recently? Ha,ha…..
    Ken

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