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    Swpmn
    Spectator

    Robert Gregg suggested using the Erbium to “pre-anesthetize” the palate prior to giving a greater palatine injection with “caine” anesthetic:

    This morning we were prepping a bridge from #1 to #6 and extracting #3. Got my preps and buildups all done and got ready to anesthetize palate for the extraction. I’m thinking, hmm, this is a good case to try using the Erbium to “numb” the palate like Bob Gregg had suggested in an earlier post. Then I’m also thinking this isn’t such a good idea since my office manager had said “Doctor Williams, you know he(patient) has spent &#3610000 in your office this year?”.

    Used a G6 tip with Waterlase at 4W setting and 10mm distance(high energy defocused Colonna technique). Lasered the area for 30 seconds(timed) and got in a few white “dings” on the tissue indicating when I got too close(made for nice “bull’s-eye”, he he). Injected 0.25 carpule of Septocaine and watched patient’s eyes and body language. Eyes did not change and he didn’t even flinch. Asked patient if that bothered him and he said “Not at all”.

    Although only first attempt, the idea did seem to work. Could have just been a “tough” patient. On the other hand, perhaps the Erbium can temporarily disrupt or “anesthetize” palatal tissue and nerves.

    Time will tell.

    Al

    #12110 Reply

    2thlaser
    Spectator

    Al,
    This is fantastic. I can’t wait to try it! Very cool! I wish I’d of tried it on the veneer patient, but next time!!!I will, if I have to, great post.
    Mark

    #12108 Reply

    Anonymous
    Guest

    Nice job ,Al
    Did you apply any topical at all?
    Anybody applying topical and lasing that for infiltrations?
    Just wondering.

    Mark, did you try low level right down the PDL in that area?

    #12112 Reply

    Swpmn
    Spectator

    Ok, Ron, yeah you busted me and I can’t stand not being honest:

    EMLA was applied for 30 seconds prior to lasing the area.

    Al

    #12109 Reply

    Anonymous
    Guest

    Al, it’s still good to know. I’ll give it a try. (Water / Air Settings?)
    I was hoping you and our California friends weren’t going to say that you needed 70 degrees and sunshine to make it work, because if that were so, Mark, Pat and I would only be able to use the technique a few months a year.:biggrin:

    #12111 Reply

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Hi Ron……this is great stuff……..

    I think your web site is proving very useful for users of all lasers and want to compliment the users here for their desire to help others learn new techniques.

    Great stuff Allen and I for one am proud that a skeptic and an owner like you were has become such a proponent for lasers as you have.

    Kudos to you all.

    Glenn

    (took my happy pills just now after posting on dental town first ……sheesh.)

    Glenn

    #12113 Reply

    Swpmn
    Spectator

    Ron, was overcast here when I tried the palatal technique:

    Air/Water was 65/55%.

    Glenn, you aren’t the only one that is happy. My main problem was there were serious problems with my laser(and like I’ve said b4 think this was the case when the laser was delivered). Once I got the laser fixed it works great!!!!!

    Al

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