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dmd92eastSpectatorAnybody own a Lares Powerlase ST6 Nd:YAG? How has it worked so far, company support, etc???
SharazSpectatorThe Lares Powerlase is also known as the Fotona Fidelis Nd:YAG in Europe, and is one of the most well known sought after units here.
Check out the fotona site at http://www.fotona.si , they are the manufacturers.
lanaSpectatorhi,
Did you do your research on Lares? What did you get? Did you buy it?
AnonymousInactiveQUOTEQuote: from lana on 12:48 am on May 23, 2007
hi,
Did you do your research on Lares? What did you get? Did you buy it?Svetlana,
Great question why don’t you go to David’s Web site to see what he boughthttp://www.plainvilledentist.com/hitech_dentistry.html
I too looked at the Lares and after careful consideration the Periolase won hands down. Ask the rep if they can perform LANAP and if they have FDA clearance to perform LANAP. Let us know what they tell you.
Thanks
SharazSpectatorObviously in the states these procedures have to be approved for use, but yes LANAP procedures can be carried out no problem, I also had a look at the LANAP video on David’s Web site…very impressive….BUT you can also remove the hard concrements with the laser, so without the use of the scaler!!
Have a look at our presso on its applications,….we are in fact a the UK dealer for Fotona, which are the manufacturer of the Powerlase.
http://www.chooseperfection.co.uk/files/products/pdf/Dental_Applications.pdf
Robert Gregg DDSSpectatorDear Mr. Mir,
When you make the statement, “…but yes LANAP procedures can be carried out no problem…” I have to ask you, a practicing clinician of LANAP for 17 years, how you can justify and defend that claim from a scientific standpoint?
LANAP stands for “Laser assisted new attachment procedure”. LANAP is a very specific and defined periodontal treatment protocol that was cleared by the FDA only after demonstrating to the FDA scientists and periodontist that the human histology completed by Professor Ray Yukna demonstrated “cementum-mediated new attachement”.
In fact, the specific FDA clearance reads, “Laser assisted new attachment procedure (cementum-mediated new periodontal ligament attachment to the root surface in the absence of long junctional epithelium.”
So in order for me and others who practice LANAP to fully understand your statment, are you claiming that the FRP Nd:YAG manufactured by Fotona and distributed in the USA by Lares Research can indeed result in cementum-mediated new attachment? And if so, are you claiming that Fotona and Lares are selling the Fotona Nd:YAG in order to accomplish LANAP as described in the FDA clearance?
Thank you for your reply.
Very truly yours,
Robert Gregg, DDS
President/Chief Dental Officer
Millennium Dental Technologies, Inc.
fmn1116Spectator(Robert Gregg DDS @ Jun. 15 2007,8:11)QUOTEDear Mr. Mir,When you make the statement, “…but yes LANAP procedures can be carried out no problem…” I have to ask you, a practicing clinician of LANAP for 17 years, how you can justify and defend that claim from a scientific standpoint?
LANAP stands for “Laser assisted new attachment procedure”. LANAP is a very specific and defined periodontal treatment protocol that was cleared by the FDA only after demonstrating to the FDA scientists and periodontist that the human histology completed by Professor Ray Yukna demonstrated “cementum-mediated new attachement”.
In fact, the specific FDA clearance reads, “Laser assisted new attachment procedure (cementum-mediated new periodontal ligament attachment to the root surface in the absence of long junctional epithelium.”
So in order for me and others who practice LANAP to fully understand your statment, are you claiming that the FRP Nd:YAG manufactured by Fotona and distributed in the USA by Lares Research can indeed result in cementum-mediated new attachment?
HELLO BOB. I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, RESPECTFULLY, ARE YOU CLAIMING THAT THE FRP ND:YAG MANUFACTURED BY FOTOA AND DISTRIBUTED IN THE USA BY LARES RESEARCH CANNOT, INDEED, RESULT IN CEMENTUM-MEDIATED NEW ATTACHEMENT?
And if so, are you claiming that Fotona and Lares are selling the Fotona Nd:YAG in order to accomplish LANAP as described in the FDA clearance?
I WANT TO CLARIFY. HAVING RECENTLY TALKED TO THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM LARES AND READING THE INFORMATION ON THE FOTONA WEB SITE, YOU CAN REST ASSURED THAT AT NO TIME HAVE THEY REPRESENTED THAT THEIR LASERS ARE SOLD TO ACCOMPLISH LANAP AS DESCRIBED IN THE FDA CLEARANCE.RESPECTFULLY
FMNThank you for your reply.
Very truly yours,
Robert Gregg, DDS
President/Chief Dental Officer
Millennium Dental Technologies, Inc.SEE COMMENTS IN YOUR TEXT IN GREEN.
(color edit by admin for clarity of who's speaking)
cletustheslackjawddsSpectatorFrank,
The post right above Dr. Gregg's is from a distributor of the Fotona in the UK.
Why would they say they can do it when they represent the manufacturer and then deny it was ever done? I have heard Lares tout it's laser has the ability to do LANAP in “wispered” tones at trade shows. I don't think that they say this any longer out of suit fears.
To answer your other question, you probably could do LANAP with the Fotona unit if you are licensed to do it (though you would risk some failures and some patient danger during the procedure due to the limited number of pulse widths), but you have to be licensed to do the procedure.
To answer it in another way, I have had cementum mediated attachment with a diode, but it was inconsistant and rare (even within the same patients mouth!). You might be able to get cementum mediated attachment with the erbium wavelength on the Powerlase. Dr. Gregg says that you could probably get CMA with a hot paperclip if you did it perfectly.
So, until you get a LANAP license and know how to do it, try not.
fmn1116Spectator(cletustheslackjawdds @ Sep. 11 2007,1:21)QUOTEFrank,The post right above Dr. Gregg's is from a distributor of the Fotona in the UK.
Why would they say they can do it when they represent the manufacturer and then deny it was ever done? I have heard Lares tout it's laser has the ability to do LANAP in “wispered” tones at trade shows. I don't think that they say this any longer out of suit fears.
To answer your other question, you probably could do LANAP with the Fotona unit if you are licensed to do it (though you would risk some failures and some patient danger during the procedure due to the limited number of pulse widths), but you have to be licensed to do the procedure.
To answer it in another way, I have had cementum mediated attachment with a diode, but it was inconsistant and rare (even within the same patients mouth!). You might be able to get cementum mediated attachment with the erbium wavelength on the Powerlase. Dr. Gregg says that you could probably get CMA with a hot paperclip if you did it perfectly.
So, until you get a LANAP license and know how to do it, try not.
Well, then I'll edit my comments to say that I have never been told by Brian, my rep that the Lares can do LANAP. He told me of their technique of perio therapy mentioned on their web sight.
I am puzzled by the threat? As a practicing dentist I am not aware of any possible way I can be limited from trying any technique of care for a patient based on any “licensing”.
At the risk of being attacked as everyone on DT was when they mentioned it, an “essential equivalent” 501 application with the FDA with the LANAP listed as the use is a whole lot different than a dental procedure requiring a license. Please give me the legal equivalent for anything we do in dentistry that is equivalent to this?
I am not at all against periolase, as I have mentioned, my quest is to understand what is the science behind all of this so that our patients will benefit and have yet to get even a remotely satisfactory answer how we can, among ourselves, justify any sense of propriety to a technique of care.
please help me understand.
fmn
AnonymousGuestThe PowerLase ST6 is not manufactured by Fotona. It is manufactured by Lares in the state of California. The laser in question was the ST6 and is only sold by Lares
Dick Linde, Lares Research
AnonymousGuest(DLINDE @ Oct. 18 2007,10:38)QUOTEThe PowerLase ST6 is not manufactured by Fotona. It is manufactured by Lares in the state of California. The laser in question was the ST6 and is only sold by LaresDick Linde, Lares Research
Hi Dick,
Welcome to LDF!Can you tell us some more about the Lares/Fotona relationship?
What lasers are manufacturered here?
Which are manufacturered elsewhere and distributed here?Thanks,
AnonymousGuestND Yag manufactured by Lares
ER Yag by fotona -
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