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dkimmelSpectatorTry Powergel diode bleach. 503-585-3344
I liked it better then the Biolase bleach but have not used the new and improved version.
That said I find laser bleaching to have no advantage over non-light source bleaching. Except for Biostimualtion of course.
dkimmelSpectatorI have no clue if this is faster. I only get a case like this once or twice a year at most. Usually I just use a perio probe to cut the fibers. The laser seems to make more sense. I would expect it to be faster. We will see!
dkimmelSpectatorLets get to the important stuff.
Do they feed you well at BOOT CAMP?
dkimmelSpectatorMossman ,
Try the OFF Topic section!!
You having fun YET?
SwpmnSpectatorKelly:
Thanks for sharing and taking time to answer questions. Interesting concept.
Has anyone done a study to try and quantify such reports as yours and also with the Er laser? Perhaps using pulp tester? Hopefully these are in progress.
Al
dkimmelSpectatorYep or like
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SwpmnSpectatorQUOTEThat said I find laser bleaching to have no advantage over non-light source bleaching.David:
Oops!
Pasco County Sheriff’s Deputies are a pretty good group. If you find yourself in trouble over this one give me call first.
Al
JanetCenturySpectatorOMIGOD yes! And stretch limo service. It was hard to come home.
jc
czeqm8SpectatorI am still full!!
Matt
BNelsonSpectatorI have a Waterlase and a Periolase and having used both for over 2 years, I won’t put a Waterlase into a pocket of a tooth I want to save. The Periolase is the best perio treatment I’ve seen- fantastic results. All thanks to Del and Bob. The Waterlase is great of hard tissues and frenectomies, as already stated. (I have no financial interest in either company, other than spending lots of money with each!)
kellyjblodgettdmdSpectatorI have had a thought (this may sound crazy) that may be a way to test this. Remember High School biology? We would use Squid nerve axons to test electrical conductivity. My thought was that you could take a nerve and test it’s conductivity in a normal state. You could then expose the nerve to a certain amount of laser energy and then test it’s conductivity again to see if there is any loss in conductivity. This should either prove or disprove the theory that laser energy actually affects the Sodium/Potassium pump in nerves.
Any thoughts?
Kelly
kellyjblodgettdmdSpectatorDitto to what Bruce said. I’ve used both Nd:YAG and Er,Cr:YSGG for about 3 years and have found that you simply need more than one “tool” to fix issues in the oral cavity. Er lasers and Nd:YAG lasers are absorbed into oral tissues so differently, it’s like comparing apples and oranges.
I will say that the only time I’ve had successful perio therapy with the YSGG was when I did a FT flap, exposed roots, ablated all calculus with the laser under 8.0X magnification with the scope and sutured back together. The healing was great, but the invasiveness was significant. After 1 year of LANAP in our office, we’re seeing better, more predictable results with a significantly less invasive protocol.
Kelly
kellyjblodgettdmdSpectatorThanks, David. Great case. It will be interesting to follow.
Kelly
Nick LuizziSpectatorKelly:
Awesome post, thanks for the knowledgeable response. The thing is, laser induced anasthesia is something we all want so badly for our patients. I think it is part of the art form of the science of dentistry. I know the more I work on it the better I am getting. That’s why so much interest arises every time the topic comes up.It is still very subjective on the type of case that I initiate laser anastetic. I know we all wish we could predicably hit a home run in every case. That’s why there is so much interest starting with topical anastetics and moving toward laser assisted anastetic. If we all keep working on it, it will happen. Nick Luizzi
SwpmnSpectatorQUOTEI have had a thought (this may sound crazy) that may be a way to test this. Remember High School biology? We would use Squid nerve axons to test electrical conductivity. My thought was that you could take a nerve and test it’s conductivity in a normal state. You could then expose the nerve to a certain amount of laser energy and then test it’s conductivity again to see if there is any loss in conductivity. This should either prove or disprove the theory that laser energy actually affects the Sodium/Potassium pump in nerves.Any thoughts?
Kelly
You’ve got some great ideas. If I was loaded I’d go back to UF and do a Ph.D. dissertation on the subject starting with the squid axons and progressing to dental students with a pulp tester!!!
I suspect somewhere somebody is running a study while we speak. Do think it’s important to quantify the findings in a scientific manner.
Al
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